As might have been expected, the Senate inquiry’s robodebt hearing has descended into a fight over public interest immunity.
The government services minister, Stuart Robert, has sent a new public interest immunity claim to the committee chair, Rachel Siewert, during the hearing.
Siewert and Labor’s Deborah O’Neill are furious, saying that the claim could have been made in advance given the government and department had plenty of advance notice of today’s hearing.
It was questions from Centre Alliance’s Rex Patrick that brought the hearing to a halt. He has asked the secretary of the Department of Social Services, Kathryn Campbell, whether legal advice was sought about the program and the cost of that advice. He is not asking for the advice itself to be provided, though he notes it would be subject to parliamentary privilege in court anyway.
Campbell has refused to answer, backed by Liberal senators Wendy Askew and Amanda Stoker.
She read from Robert’s letter, which states that the commonwealth defence against Gordon Legal’s class action claims for unjust enrichment and negligence could be prejudiced if the fact that legal advice existed or did not exist was made public.
O’Neill accused Campbell, Robert and the department of deliberately seeking to delay and obfuscate.
The committee is now holding a private meeting over the issue.
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Secretary of social services department apologises for ‘any hurt or harm’ caused by robodebt
The secretary of the Department of Social Services, Kathryn Campbell, has apologised for any hurt or harm caused by the robodebt program.
Campbell, also a former secretary of the Department of Human Services, which created the program, echoed the apology made by Scott Morrison in parliament last month.
She told a Senate inquiry into the robodebt inquiry today:
The department and the agency also apologise for any hurt or harm.
Services Australia’s Michelle Lees says 145,000 people have been refunded so far through the robodebt refunds program. That’s worth $224m.
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In a bid to drive down the number of people who were still going to work while awaiting test results for Covid-19, Victoria has paid out 4,200 $300 payments for people in insecure work who were unable to take sick leave while awaiting test results.
The emergency payment is being managed by the Victorian jobs department, and has paid out over $1.26m already, with 5,200 applications.
Guardian Australia has spoken to people who have applied for the payment, and they have said it is relatively simple. In terms of proof, you can provide payslips, or sign a statutory declaration if you don’t have payslips, indicating you could not work your shift while waiting for test results.
One casual worker Guardian Australia spoke to said by the time they had received a response via text message that they’d receive a payment, they’d already had a negative test result, but had missed two shifts, so the payment would be useful for the next pay cycle.
Those who test positive are able to get a $1,500 payment if they have no access to sick leave. Andrews said there was not an insubstantial amount of people applying for, and getting this payment, but he did not have the data on Friday. He said the data would be released in the coming days.
Despite the payments available, Andrews said in almost one in four cases (130 out of 500) where the ADF has visited the home of someone who tested positive for coronavirus, that person wasn’t at home.
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